tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6504742686650223041.post3504269120541888151..comments2024-03-27T21:18:52.191-06:00Comments on Der Alte Fritz Journal: Hesse Seewald Army UniformsDer Alte Fritzhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01578422757511400566noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6504742686650223041.post-49905239840285020152008-12-30T12:37:00.000-06:002008-12-30T12:37:00.000-06:00Nice selection of uniforms-- AllanNice selection of uniforms<BR/><BR/>-- Allanold-tiddershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05055135576841243361noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6504742686650223041.post-63310683153313367472008-12-29T10:06:00.000-06:002008-12-29T10:06:00.000-06:00While a vocal advocate of ‘displacement of minis’ ...While a vocal advocate of <A HREF="http://cavenderia.blogspot.com/2008/12/some-thoughts-over-holiday-break.html" REL="nofollow">‘displacement of minis’</A> I’m far from unfavourable to ‘displacement of uniforms’! <BR/>Then if uniforms are simply copied, imho it would be more interesting to ‘translate’ a whole army, e.g. to have French Lace Wars minis painted in the various uniforms of the Grande Armee or of the Imperial Guard of Napoleon III (for the latere you’d have to convert early Zuaves minis, but ‘turkeries’ were fashionable in 18th C. Western Europe!). For isolated units it could be more interesting to add a personal touch, as for the Waldecker <A HREF="http://hetzenberg.blogspot.com/2008/09/tuhellenbach-hussars-regiment-kramer.html" REL="nofollow">Tuhellenbach Hussars</A>, based on the sky blue / garance / silver lace of late 19th C. French light cavalry, but with an original ‘plus’.abdul666https://www.blogger.com/profile/16172686098173637906noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6504742686650223041.post-4138015872341386222008-12-29T08:05:00.000-06:002008-12-29T08:05:00.000-06:00To prevent any misunderstanding of my previous pos...To prevent any misunderstanding of my previous post: <B><I>‘Gross Hesse-Sewald’</I></B> is of course <B>NOT</B> a ‘real Imagi-Nation’ (<B>!</B>) but historical Prussia occasionally fighting under an assumed name. In the same way ‘Gallia’ is France, and we know of several other examples in EvEurope. As such it is not only normal, but <B>*good*</B> that their armies are ‘historical’, and we know how Jim and Bill strive herd to have them as historically accurate as possible. <BR/><B>[</B>And if we learn of some possible <A HREF="http://altefritz.blogspot.com/2008/02/stadden-18th-century-artillery-crew.html" REL="nofollow">uniform peculiarity</A> of ‘Gross Hesse –Seewald’ Artillery, or if the <A HREF="http://ossywcampaign.blogspot.com/2008/11/legion-de-fischer.html" REL="nofollow">Chasseurs de Fischer</A> look perhaps more Gallian than French, I for one am not worried at all by such isolated ‘artistic licence’, in the same way as I find Roly’s <A HREF="http://dare.paradise.net.nz/france/volontaires.htm" REL="nofollow"> Clermont-Prince’s</A> in their ‘wrong’ ventre-de-biche so good-looking that I hope he will never repaint them.<B>]</B><BR/><BR/>But on the opposite <B><I>‘Alt Hesse-Sewald’</I></B> <B>IS</B> an Imagi-Nation, intended from the start as such, to allow its builder to know the pleasures of a Prince unleashing his educated creativity to design the uniforms of his troops. It is *only* in this precise context that, imho, it would be a great pity to field a bland, gloomy copycat…<BR/><BR/>200% personal, of course!<BR/><BR/>Best regards to all,<BR/>Jean-Louisabdul666https://www.blogger.com/profile/16172686098173637906noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6504742686650223041.post-43579502741393253232008-12-29T07:03:00.000-06:002008-12-29T07:03:00.000-06:00Very nice. I like that you have varied the small ...Very nice. I like that you have varied the small cloths for different units, I must confess though that I think the straw is more fetching. Maybe have David of NBA do the flag layout for you so you have an original flag.Prinz Geoffreyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16409013870510548637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6504742686650223041.post-92016768058615149462008-12-29T06:53:00.000-06:002008-12-29T06:53:00.000-06:00Luckner's Hussars wore one of the most spectacular...Luckner's Hussars wore one of the most spectacular looking hussar uniforms of the period, at least in my opinion so they can do double duty in my British and HS army. Or I may suit them up in a variant of the Napoleonic Garde Chassuers a Cheval, whose uniform I like, or the red/green combination of the von Kleist hussars.<BR/><BR/>While they are green, the uniform cut is Prussian and the facings set them apart from Russian uniforms. In their geographic location, we are unlikely to mix it up with Russia. The Saxons used green for their artillery crew and a number of nationalities used it for their light infantry.<BR/><BR/>Rose/pink looks good when used in small amounts and there is historical precedent in the Prussian army: IR7, IR18, IR40 and DR3 come to mind.<BR/><BR/>Since the maximum number of regiments per one of my carrying cases is 5, that will be the maximum number of HS infantry that I paint. That also keeps it smaller than the Prussian army and also makes the project more "doable".<BR/><BR/>Flags: I'm still working on some ideas, but nothing firm at this point. I may just use GMB Designs Hessian flags, which are colorful and I already have all of them in stock.Der Alte Fritzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01578422757511400566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6504742686650223041.post-91512678028890326692008-12-29T05:53:00.000-06:002008-12-29T05:53:00.000-06:00Historical uniforms were not always a sure mark of...Historical uniforms were not always a sure mark of nationality (even if considering only the major powers)!<BR/>An army in historical Russian uniforms would merely be a clone.abdul666https://www.blogger.com/profile/16172686098173637906noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6504742686650223041.post-15109013849147104512008-12-29T05:07:00.000-06:002008-12-29T05:07:00.000-06:00An interesting project. As usual with me I do hav...An interesting project. As usual with me I do have one niggling doubt: with green coated regiments, will there be sufficient difference from Russians to indicate they are not of that nationality? If not, then why not use historical Russian uniforms? In realise I am creating a problem that is entirely imaginary, but it's the sort of difficulty that besets me whenever I think about doing this sort of thing.Andy Mitchellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14975141756383175819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6504742686650223041.post-24621477425035570192008-12-29T03:44:00.000-06:002008-12-29T03:44:00.000-06:00Well, I agree that my two favorites are on the rig...Well, I agree that my two favorites are on the right. I think I prefer the Glasenap best of all; then the Foresters; then Holstein.<BR/><BR/>But I must confess that I truly dislike the pink of Charlottenburg . . . but then I don't like pink period.<BR/><BR/>Still how do you think a lighter green would look? Maybe even a pale gray-green?<BR/><BR/>Then with a green pom-pom it would easily be distinguishable from Holstein.<BR/><BR/>Yeah, I don't like pink (even if you call it 'rose').<BR/><BR/>The two mounted officers look great . . . but I want to see the uniforms of the Munchausen Dragoons.<BR/><BR/><BR/>-- JeffBluebear Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07595975572873838050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6504742686650223041.post-62432978643542093212008-12-29T01:38:00.000-06:002008-12-29T01:38:00.000-06:00Great work Jim!I particuarly like the two inf on t...Great work Jim!<BR/>I particuarly like the two inf on the right of the four. It is good to see some Rose facings too. The officers are a treat too. Have you thought about flags yet?<BR/>Alantradgardmastarehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13116967655904601740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6504742686650223041.post-41392116690334245802008-12-29T01:19:00.000-06:002008-12-29T01:19:00.000-06:00Wow!When you do something, you don't do it by half...Wow!<BR/>When you do something, you don't do it by half!<BR/><BR/>Then I have to confess being intrigued by your choice of hussars: in a fictitious army, why would the hussars -always more 'exotic'-looking- wear an *historical* uniform? A tongue-in-cheek way to reflect their 'exoticism'? Even if this peculiar unit is intended to moonlight in historical games, the diversity of 'authentic' hussar uniforms is so bewildering that they would hardly be spotted as 'fictitious', specially if part of a Kreis contingent. Then of course the argument works in the opposite direction: hussars will hardly stand out as 'historicals' in a fictitious army (though Luckner's, if less well known than Bercheny's or the Tottemkopf, are not obscure).<BR/>Nonetheless, hussars provide such an unique opportunity to let your 'creativity' run wild... Foe a country with 'Seewald' in its name, what about some cyan / sea green in their uniform?<BR/><BR/>Cheers,<BR/>Jean-Louisabdul666https://www.blogger.com/profile/16172686098173637906noreply@blogger.com